213. China and the USA: The Most Important Relationship In The World? (Kevin Rudd)
2026-11-02
What do Xi Jinping and Donald Trump actually want? How much does Beijing back Putin, and could it ever pressure him over Ukraine? How likely is a conflict over Taiwan, and when could it be?
Rory and Alastair are joined by the prior Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, to answer all these questions and more.
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The Rest Is Politics: Leading
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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.