I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

From cop to defence lawyer: Patrick Schmidt Pt. 1

2026-10-31

Former police prosecutor turned defence solicitor Patrick Schmidt sits down with Gary to reveal what really happens when police face a good defence lawyer in court and why so many officers struggle in the witness box.

With 8 years as a police prosecutor and now defending clients full-time, Patrick has seen both sides. He breaks down how defence lawyers pick apart police evidence, why arrogance and emotion get officers into trouble, and why preparation is everything when you take the stand.

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2026-10-31

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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.