Seeing with the Help of a Soul-Optometrist with Sr. Simone Campbell
What would change if you could see with eyes of love—even in the face of cruelty, fear, and disagreement?
In this episode, Brian McLaren and co-host Carmen Acevedo Butcher sit down with renowned spiritual leader, legal advocate, and activist Sister Simone Campbell for a deeply honest conversation about love, justice, and compassion. They explore how contemplative practice grounds fierce activism, why listening is an act of love, and what it means to see even your political opponents with empathy. From her role in passing the Affordable Care Act to launching the "Nuns on the Bus" movement, Sister Simone shares moving stories of courage, community, and the Spirit’s surprising guidance—inviting us all into a new way of seeing and being.
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You can find a transcript for this episode here.
Find Sr Simone Campbell's book Hunger for Hope here.
Learning How to See with Brian McLaren
How do we transform and transcend our biases? From judgments made unconsciously to complacency in systemic evil, we must learn how to see if we are to learn how to transform. Center for Action and Contemplation faculty member Brian McLaren hosts the podcast series Learning How to See. Listen and discover how seeing is social, political, and contemplative.
- No. of episodes: 72
- Latest episode: 2025-06-12
- Religion & Spirituality Christianity
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