Ben Joseloff: The Board's Guide to CFIUS and Evolving National Security Reviews
(0:00) Intro
(1:43) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel
(2:29) Start of interview
(3:11) Ben's origin story
(9:39) His start at Cravath in 2010
(10:54) His time at the U.S. Treasury Department and the White House.
(15:04) About CFIUS. Reforms from FIRRMA (2018). Control transactions and minority investments in critical technologies, critical infrastructure, or sensitive personal data.
(24:45) Trends in transaction reviews. CFIUS Annual Report to Congress – CY 2023
(30:00) Presidential prohibitions under CFIUS.
(32:23) CFIUS and crypto.
(34:02) The TikTok case.
(36:14) Restrictions on outbound investments in China: AI, semiconductors, and quantum computing.
(42:13) De-risking vs de-coupling from China. Geopolitics and the boardroom.
(44:40) Industrial policies.
(47:21) Advice for corporate directors on national security matters.
(49:30) Books that have greatly influenced his life:
Wind, Sand and Stars by Antoine de Saint-Exupery (1939)Elements of Style by Strunk and White (1918)(51:46) His mentors.
(53:04) Quote that he thinks of often or lives his life by. The "Spirit of Liberty" Speech Judge Learned Hand (1944)
(54:34) An unusual habit or absurd thing that he loves.
(55:42) The person he most admires.
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